Strippers allegations against Chiefs unsubstantiated - Steve Tew
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335 views Sep 7, 2016NZ Rugby CEO Steve Tew is disappointed Chiefs players hired a stripper for their end of season function - but says their investigation found everything that happened was consensual.
Transcript0:00new zealand rugby boss Steve Chu says
0:01he's disappointed chief rug Chiefs rugby
0:03players harder stripper to perform at an
0:05indices in function but says all the
0:07activity that occurred was consensual
0:09the findings of an investigation de
0:12claims Chiefs players abuse the stripper
0:14at the mutter mutter hotel bar when made
0:16public this afternoon by NZ rugby and
0:18the Chiefs their investigation found the
0:20strippers claims of sexual abuse
0:21including being touched without
0:22permission were unsubstantiated by nine
0:25quote independent witnesses in quote
0:28spoken to buy a new zealand rugby's
0:29legal counsel the whole Chiefs team's
0:32been given a warning for hiring the
0:33performer and new zealand baby's chief
0:35executive says it was inappropriate but
0:37Steve chooses no witnesses back the
0:39allegations that were made so what does
0:41that mean does that mean the alleged
0:43events didn't happen or that they did
0:45happen but they were consented to well
0:49we're not disputing anything as such
0:51Joel always done and I had a very senior
0:53member of the legal fraternity who
0:56happens to be our general counsel was
0:57got a lot of employment or background
1:00his column spoken to nine independent
1:02witnesses and a reasonable cost each of
1:05the players by those who were entirety
1:07by than those who was sober and playing
1:09minder because that's the way they
1:11conduct themselves these days and they
1:14just he simply cannot get any evidence
1:16to substantiate the claims that were
1:18made what we saw there were claims so if
1:20you can't substantiate them what claims
1:22are you rejecting was Scarlett for
1:25example licked and touched well I'm
1:29frankly not particularly enthusiastic
1:32about going through the individual
1:33delegations because I'm not sure that
1:35anyone benefits met but none of the
1:37allegations that were made on television
1:39by scarlet Astaire chatter by any of the
1:42independent witnesses all the players
1:43that we've spoken to so what we have
1:45chosen to do is to take a collective
1:47action against the players those that
1:49were there and those that weren't now
1:52all have a formal caution on their
1:54record and it's largely about the
1:55decision to have a function with this
1:58sort of entertainment in it because it
1:59was a poor decision and we need to learn
2:01submissions from exit I want to know
2:03what happened was she looked untouched
2:05and if so are you disputing her version
2:09of events because you're saying it was
2:11consensual or are you saying they
2:13didn't happen at all now I'm well I'm
2:16saying John is that we cannot get anyone
2:19to substantiate the claim that she made
2:22their actions on a non-consensual type
2:24we were taken by the place I'm not going
2:27to get into the intimate details on who
2:29routine I think you better talk to her
2:30about that but in the end we can also
2:34Stan show any of the claims that she
2:36made against our players on an
2:38individual basis or as a group for that
2:41matter but we are deeply disappointed
2:44the decision was made to have this sort
2:47of entertainment at a function that
2:48clearly can be seen as a Chiefs function
2:51in a camp and it can't happen again for
2:54even supposed to be involved in it
2:55that's what the caution means can we
2:57talk about the nine independent
2:58witnesses who were they not in terms of
3:01names but where were they from how were
3:03they independent or only people because
3:05they weren't part of the test group they
3:07were people who happen to be on the
3:08premises because they work there for
3:10example ought to be a so I'm not
3:13entirely sure John because if they work
3:15there this is a pub that the Chiefs had
3:17visited before no no stop no definitely
3:20not all of the work you I'm not sure so
3:22some of them are some even work there
3:23because would that mean they were
3:25independent if they were being paid for
3:27example that day to look after the
3:29Chiefs to serve drinks to the Chiefs
3:31that wouldn't be independent with us
3:33well let me let me just give you some
3:35context we have attempted to find out
3:38exactly what happened because we wanted
3:40to know so our legal counsel has gone to
3:43the witnesses that were there and I
3:45don't know whether any of them were
3:47staff or not but certainly a different
3:51number than we're not they were members
3:52of the public so they are independent
3:54and today we and did they witness the
3:57entire performance for wonderful be the
4:00description the witnesses apparently
4:02some were invited in and put the
4:04invitation up and watch the entire
4:06performance okay all of this is so at
4:11odds with what Scarlett is saying about
4:14what happened that it is bewildering to
4:17me how people who are in the same place
4:20at the same time see things so
4:22differently yep bewildering to me too
4:27John was bewildering to me that that
4:29those claims were made on live
4:33television without anyone checking that
4:35anybody else might they had the same
4:36view of them as well but that's what
4:38occurred or we can deal with effects in
4:40front of us and that is having
4:42interviewed as I say a number of players
4:44who were sober in minders number flies
4:46overhead admittedly been drinking and
4:47also reasonable cross-section of or not
4:51cross its with a reasonable number of
4:52independent witnesses definitely some of
4:54whom did not work in the establishment
4:55and there is nothing to sustain the
4:58allegations that were made that means
5:00like we can take any action against our
5:02place nothing to say nothing to sustain
5:04that sorry are you saying so are you
5:06saying this stuff didn't happen let's
5:08let's begin at what we know heaven did
5:09the performance happen John what as far
5:13as we know the team made a decision the
5:16group of the team that was here we only
5:18had 24 of the 40 or applies mccourt
5:20actually on this trip they made a
5:22decision to hire an entertainer a woman
5:25to come and rip and she did strip right
5:27that's not a dispute she performed her
5:30routine which I have to say is more than
5:34a striptease and as far as I'll go
5:36because I don't think it's helpful for
5:38us to be so it's more than a striptease
5:40so that would suggest that the Scarlets
5:44claims that people were touching her did
5:47in fact happen so when you say it can't
5:50be substantiated or corroborated
5:51actually this is a discussion around
5:53consent isn't it you're saying the
5:55inside are you was saying she consented
5:57to that she's saying no I didn't the
6:01independent witnesses and the players we
6:04interviewed all agree whatever took
6:07place was consensual that the other
6:09allegations that were made around but
6:12other behavior boisterous behavior did
6:14not occur and from that point of view we
6:18can't go any further what's she on a
6:19hiding to nothing here what's this
6:21investigation ever going to find
6:23anything other than this what if you
6:25question the integrity of the effort we
6:26put into this then I will challenge you
6:28because I find it unfortunate we have I
6:31put into this piece of work an enormous
6:33amount of energy and personal effort
6:35from our general counsel it was a very
6:37senior legal practitioner he has
6:40interviewed people in comfort
6:41who have shared with them exactly what
6:43they believe to take place and that's
6:45what's brought us to the conclusions
6:47that we have made I come back to it I
6:48don't think there's a winner or loser
6:50and this everybody and this miss is an
6:53unfortunate participant but in the end
6:56this performance was consensual it is
7:01apparently legal because you can ring a
7:05agency and get some of the color on and
7:07do these things and that's what happened
7:10in the steam in the NZRU statement it
7:12says and I quote the players also wish
7:14to apologize to the women what what
7:16women the woman involved because they
7:20see now that she has got herself in a
7:22very awkward situation and they feel for
7:24her and in regret the fact that they
7:26high during the first place so they are
7:28regret the fact that their hide her in
7:30the first place but nothing about their
7:32behavior when she was there no as I say
7:35the players completely reject the
7:38allegations that were made and you
7:40accept that and your ends at are you
7:43counsel who conducted this investigation
7:45accepts that I accept the findings that
7:48a deal counselors made having
7:50cross-reference what the pride have told
7:52us with nine witnesses who were not pile
7:55of a team some of them with general
7:57beamers of the general public Steve to I
8:00spoke to him what time about roughly
8:03four o'clock this afternoon
NZ Rugby CEO Steve Tew is disappointed Chiefs players hired a stripper for their end of season function - but says their investigation found everything that happened was consensual.
new zealand rugby boss Steve Chu says
he's disappointed chief rug Chiefs rugby
players harder stripper to perform at an
indices in function but says all the
activity that occurred was consensual
the findings of an investigation de
claims Chiefs players abuse the stripper
at the mutter mutter hotel bar when made
public this afternoon by NZ rugby and
the Chiefs their investigation found the
strippers claims of sexual abuse
including being touched without
permission were unsubstantiated by nine
quote independent witnesses in quote
spoken to buy a new zealand rugby's
legal counsel the whole Chiefs team's
been given a warning for hiring the
performer and new zealand baby's chief
executive says it was inappropriate but
Steve chooses no witnesses back the
allegations that were made so what does
that mean does that mean the alleged
events didn't happen or that they did
happen but they were consented to well
we're not disputing anything as such
Joel always done and I had a very senior
member of the legal fraternity who
happens to be our general counsel was
got a lot of employment or background
his column spoken to nine independent
witnesses and a reasonable cost each of
the players by those who were entirety
by than those who was sober and playing
minder because that's the way they
conduct themselves these days and they
just he simply cannot get any evidence
to substantiate the claims that were
made what we saw there were claims so if
you can't substantiate them what claims
are you rejecting was Scarlett for
example licked and touched well I'm
frankly not particularly enthusiastic
about going through the individual
delegations because I'm not sure that
anyone benefits met but none of the
allegations that were made on television
by scarlet Astaire chatter by any of the
independent witnesses all the players
that we've spoken to so what we have
chosen to do is to take a collective
action against the players those that
were there and those that weren't now
all have a formal caution on their
record and it's largely about the
decision to have a function with this
sort of entertainment in it because it
was a poor decision and we need to learn
submissions from exit I want to know
what happened was she looked untouched
and if so are you disputing her version
of events because you're saying it was
consensual or are you saying they
didn't happen at all now I'm well I'm
saying John is that we cannot get anyone
to substantiate the claim that she made
their actions on a non-consensual type
we were taken by the place I'm not going
to get into the intimate details on who
routine I think you better talk to her
about that but in the end we can also
Stan show any of the claims that she
made against our players on an
individual basis or as a group for that
matter but we are deeply disappointed
the decision was made to have this sort
of entertainment at a function that
clearly can be seen as a Chiefs function
in a camp and it can't happen again for
even supposed to be involved in it
that's what the caution means can we
talk about the nine independent
witnesses who were they not in terms of
names but where were they from how were
they independent or only people because
they weren't part of the test group they
were people who happen to be on the
premises because they work there for
example ought to be a so I'm not
entirely sure John because if they work
there this is a pub that the Chiefs had
visited before no no stop no definitely
not all of the work you I'm not sure so
some of them are some even work there
because would that mean they were
independent if they were being paid for
example that day to look after the
Chiefs to serve drinks to the Chiefs
that wouldn't be independent with us
well let me let me just give you some
context we have attempted to find out
exactly what happened because we wanted
to know so our legal counsel has gone to
the witnesses that were there and I
don't know whether any of them were
staff or not but certainly a different
number than we're not they were members
of the public so they are independent
and today we and did they witness the
entire performance for wonderful be the
description the witnesses apparently
some were invited in and put the
invitation up and watch the entire
performance okay all of this is so at
odds with what Scarlett is saying about
what happened that it is bewildering to
me how people who are in the same place
at the same time see things so
differently yep bewildering to me too
John was bewildering to me that that
those claims were made on live
television without anyone checking that
anybody else might they had the same
view of them as well but that's what
occurred or we can deal with effects in
front of us and that is having
interviewed as I say a number of players
who were sober in minders number flies
overhead admittedly been drinking and
also reasonable cross-section of or not
cross its with a reasonable number of
independent witnesses definitely some of
whom did not work in the establishment
and there is nothing to sustain the
allegations that were made that means
like we can take any action against our
place nothing to say nothing to sustain
that sorry are you saying so are you
saying this stuff didn't happen let's
let's begin at what we know heaven did
the performance happen John what as far
as we know the team made a decision the
group of the team that was here we only
had 24 of the 40 or applies mccourt
actually on this trip they made a
decision to hire an entertainer a woman
to come and rip and she did strip right
that's not a dispute she performed her
routine which I have to say is more than
a striptease and as far as I'll go
because I don't think it's helpful for
us to be so it's more than a striptease
so that would suggest that the Scarlets
claims that people were touching her did
in fact happen so when you say it can't
be substantiated or corroborated
actually this is a discussion around
consent isn't it you're saying the
inside are you was saying she consented
to that she's saying no I didn't the
independent witnesses and the players we
interviewed all agree whatever took
place was consensual that the other
allegations that were made around but
other behavior boisterous behavior did
not occur and from that point of view we
can't go any further what's she on a
hiding to nothing here what's this
investigation ever going to find
anything other than this what if you
question the integrity of the effort we
put into this then I will challenge you
because I find it unfortunate we have I
put into this piece of work an enormous
amount of energy and personal effort
from our general counsel it was a very
senior legal practitioner he has
interviewed people in comfort
who have shared with them exactly what
they believe to take place and that's
what's brought us to the conclusions
that we have made I come back to it I
don't think there's a winner or loser
and this everybody and this miss is an
unfortunate participant but in the end
this performance was consensual it is
apparently legal because you can ring a
agency and get some of the color on and
do these things and that's what happened
in the steam in the NZRU statement it
says and I quote the players also wish
to apologize to the women what what
women the woman involved because they
see now that she has got herself in a
very awkward situation and they feel for
her and in regret the fact that they
high during the first place so they are
regret the fact that their hide her in
the first place but nothing about their
behavior when she was there no as I say
the players completely reject the
allegations that were made and you
accept that and your ends at are you
counsel who conducted this investigation
accepts that I accept the findings that
a deal counselors made having
cross-reference what the pride have told
us with nine witnesses who were not pile
of a team some of them with general
beamers of the general public Steve to I
spoke to him what time about roughly
four o'clock this afternoon
